The first sign is what you would use at the beginning and the second sign is what you would use at the end of a story or anecdote that you want to show as an internal thought or dream.
This sign is used to explain something you tend to do. For example: EVERY-MORNING I TEND-TO GET-UP TIME 8
This sign is used to describe more of a “SPAT” type of argument.
As in “lose a game.”
Another way to sign LUNCH is to tap the L handshape on your chin.